Favourite Villain Appearances?

[hushicho]

Since this really doesn't fit in the other massive discussions we've been having, I thought I'd start it in another topic, but what are your favourite single appearances of repeat foes/villains/monsters? These would include any who've appeared more than once, even those like Sil since he appeared in two serials.

To start, I'll make a list of my own:

Daleks - Genesis of the Daleks
This was the first serial I can remember watching in its entirety, and it stuck with me. As a child I was entirely and totally taken with the idea of Daleks! I was terrified and enthralled at the same time.

Cybermen - The Wheel in Space or The Invasion
A close one, I couldn't decide between these two. They were both so good that I felt they both deserved inclusion. They both terrified me!

Autons - Terror of the Autons
I wish more had been done with the Autons, but this was undeniably their best moment.

The Master - The Daemons
Soft spot for Miss Hawthorne, being someone quite like her m'self. The Master was absolutely magnificently ridiculous in this, and I loved it.

Sea-Devils - The Sea-Devils
Once again a slim selection, but this was the better of the two appearances.

Silurians - The Silurians
They were actually really very scary in this one. I remember them burning through the wall behind the Doctor at the end of one episode and scaring the heeby-jeebies out of me!!

Yeti - The Web of Fear
This one was more terrifying than its predecessor and, to boot, gave us the UNIT concept.

Ice Warriors - The Curse of Peladon
This one was a hard one, because I like 'The Monster of Peladon' so much too, and that one throws you off because you don't expect the double-cross; 'Curse' was more interesting to me, though, because it was just as unexpected and also painted the Ice Warriors in an honourable and respectable (while still terrifying) manner.

Omega - Arc of Infinity
While I think 'The Two Doctors' is a much more enjoyable episode, I think Omega is handled better in 'Arc' than in 'The Two Doctors'.

The Guardians - Enlightenment
I'll admit I was never wild about the whole Guardians concept, but I thought 'Enlightenment' illustrated their concept (as well as adding in another level to the Doctor's adventures) extremely well.

Mara - Snakedance
Overall I found 'Snakedance' to be a lot more enjoyable and a lot less pretentious than 'Kinda'. A prime example of the vast difference between first-season Davison and second.

The Rani - Mark of the Rani
So wicked, so plotting, she was done well really in both her appearances, but this one I'm more partial to slightly. I think she clashed better with the sixth Doctor than the seventh.

That's all I can think of at the moment...so what are yours and why? Do let me know...I think it's very interesting to think of!!

Love!
Hushicho

[Iain]

I feel remiss for not responding to this topic earlier, heres some of my favourite villain/monster/moments.

Daleks Genesis of the Daleks, is my favourite all time Dalek story too hushicho, there are other good ones but the entire telling of their origin was never handled better than here, Davros was a an amazing villain too, with so many levels of evil cunning.

Cybermen Going with another 'origin' tale here "Tomb of the Cybermen" was a suspensful plot that introduced us to the Cybercontroller as well, the tin giants were at their best in the sixties really.

Sontarans I guess I am going with their first appearance here in "The Time Warrior" Kevin Lindsay as Linx portrayed the best Sontaran I ever saw, ruthless and dangerous, or as the Doctor put it "Short, brutal and nasty"

Ice Warriors "The Seeds of Death" was an exciting troughtontale where the Ice Warriors were still badguys really, (unlike the Peladon storys where they were mis-judged bad guys quite often) I rather liked their role here, and felt these foes were often underused in Dr Who really.

The Yeti They have only appeared twice in the shows history (unless you include a very brief scene in "The Five Doctors")and most of their episodes are lost now, but the opening scene to "The Web of Fear" if that was my only viewing ever of a Yeti it would leave chills down my spine, it was a powerful scene.

The Master Delgado over Ainley really here, the opening appearance of the Delgado Master in "Terror of the Autons" was all a true villain needed, I actually prefer him in tales like the "Deamons" and "The Sea Devils" where he is concentrating more on bigger issues than the simple thwarting of his rival. (practical jokes on the doctor with phone cords werent really very good ways to slay his nemesis. )

Autons Only two appearances again but what a pair, the introduction of the Doctor and Master encompassed them both, I think that "Spearhead from Space" is a bit better potrayal of them, "Terror" seemed to set them up as stoogies for the Master too much, plus Autons should never talk if they sound like 'reject' Daleks. Agh my ears!!

Sea Devils/Silurians Not really much of a contest here their origonal tales were far superior to "Warriors of the Deep" plus knock extra points off the two reptile races for having the gall to bring the panto Mryka in as extra laugh factor!!
Dont not mock the fearsome Myrka!![/color]

The Rani Yes she was more dangerous in "Mark of the Rani" than the rather confusing "Time and the Rani" she put the bumbling Master in his place too frequently there.

Mara Whenever a plastic snake can look deadly, we are all in trouble, I guess thats why Snakedance is my favourite of the two Mara stories also.

Omega - Arc of Infinity
While I think 'The Two Doctors' is a much more enjoyable episode, I think Omega is handled better in 'Arc' than in 'The Two Doctors'.

Whoops I'm sure you meant to say The Three Doctors there for Omegas appearance, I guess he is better in Arc, I just wished the last episode of Arc wasnt such a run-around to show off the location work.

Axos I quite enjoyed the idea of something beautiful becomes an evil menace, if only it had been realised better in the actual story, oh well.

Thats my take on villains so far...

[hushicho]

Er yes, you're entirely right, 'The Three Doctors' was what I meant. Although both were excellent serials, I think for Omega 'Arc' was superior, even though 'Doctors' was a bit more fun.

Love!
Hushicho

[Iain]

Hmm maybe we should do a worst villian too, I feel that the Rutans (strange cabbage heads wrapped in bubblewrap) need a mention there, of course nothing beats the mighty Myrka for panto horse imitation, but the scary Nimons with their heads that nearly fell off come a close second....

[hushicho]

Somehow, for me at least, the Rutans worked since they could take other forms. Remember too that by the time we actually saw the thing, it was almost entirely defeated by the Doctor and not at its best. I think the Rutans were quite effective because you couldn't be sure of where...or even who...they were until it was too late!

I thought that, despite decent costumes, the Terileptils were pretty crap and never did much of anything. The Urbankans were likewise uninspiring and appeared much like any other green-skinned imitation of Stephen Fry from outer space. And then of course there's Kalid.

...but there's no need to be rude.

Anyway, the Mykra was rather plodding and goofy, although as one writer pointed out, who's to say it wouldn't be rather goofy? If something that large and electrified comes at me, I'm going to run like hell! But visually, yes, it wasn't particularly inspiring or terrifying.

I can't really think of too TOO many that made me wince by seeing them...mostly my grievances were with the weak way some monsters were portrayed and we were expected to take them seriously. And, well, the Myrka certainly was one of those. Although its power was obvious and its effects were fearsome, its appearance was something less than imposing.

There's my two cents.

Love!
Hushicho