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Post by LiZhen on Jun 19, 2004 12:45:40 GMT -5
OK, here is a thread to complete the collection of 'Greatest Contributor to..' questions. I made this one a poll though.
So..vote who you think helped Cao Cao and his descendants the most in their rise to power?
I vote Guo Jia because he was the strategist that really gave Cao Cao the victories over all those other lords at the beggining - Lu Bu, Zhang Xiu, the Two Yuans, Li Jue and Guo Si.
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Post by boogiepopmeup on Jun 19, 2004 12:55:01 GMT -5
deng ai. he accomplished what no one else could. he contributed as an agrucultural admin. as well as laying defences in the north.
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Post by Sleipner on Jun 19, 2004 19:21:49 GMT -5
Guo Jia quite high in the list but Cao Cao seemed to get strategies from a variety of strategists meaning he would be able to succeed without a particular strategist.
I vote for Zhang Liao. He was a constant member of the army and helped keep defense of the entire north by holding the areas around He Fei. When Cao Cao went to fight Ma Chao at tong gate and then liu bei at han zhong he felt assured that the east was protected by Zhang Liao.
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Post by Shikanosuke on Jun 19, 2004 20:58:07 GMT -5
I voted for Sima Yi for one reason. I believe if Sima Yi had not been there, Zhuge Liang and Shu's attack would have most likely been successful. Gua Jia was defintely the second though.
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Post by Shikanosuke on Jun 19, 2004 20:58:24 GMT -5
bah on Wei though ;D
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Post by Nubian Knight on Jun 24, 2004 2:25:46 GMT -5
>:(XIAHOU DUN!  ...Xiahou Yuan is also okay, but I believe it was the combined presence of the Cao/Xiahou clans support that allowed Cao Cao dominance. I picked Dun because I'm biased, but also I feel that he best represents this family-founded support for Cao Cao. |
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Post by Iain on Jun 24, 2004 2:49:55 GMT -5
Zhang Liao, for me contributed the most (Zhang He would be a solid second) even if you only rate Zhang Liao by his defence of He-Fei he did more there with few men against overwhelming odds than anyone else in the entire 3K period, He quite literary routed an entire army by his own courage.
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Post by masayuki on Apr 23, 2005 16:53:17 GMT -5
the greatest contributer to wei was zhang liao cause he scarred children into silence and was the only reason in my opinion that wei never fell by a wu/shu attack
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...Xiahou Yuan is also okay, but I believe it was the combined presence of the Cao/Xiahou clans support that allowed Cao Cao dominance. I picked Dun because I'm biased, but also I feel that he best represents this family-founded support for Cao Cao.
